Why is gregory in the pizzaplex

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• In one ending in which Freddy leaves with Gregory, but the PizzaPlex survives, Glamrock Freddy is replaced with Glamrock Mr. Hippo… yet there were a number of Glamrock Endo endoskeletons in Parts and Services which would seem just as usable for a Glamrock Freddy as a Glamrock Mr. Hippo.
  • It's possible they only had one set of casing for Freddy. That and the whole crash on stage probably gave the higher-ups more reason to replace him at that point.
  • Another possibility is that Fazbear Entertainment is trying to distance themselves from their horrific past, and phasing out the original animatronics and replacing them with new ones is part of how they plan to do it. Foxy didn't even get a glamrock incarnation, and no attempt (that we know of) was made to repair Glamrock Bonnie after the decommissioning incident.
  • Doesn't exactly work when they have no qualms advertising and displaying posters and decor from previous establishments, such as the 1987 location with the toy animatronics. Foxy despite lacking a Glamrock version still has a big presence in Pizzaplex through displays and his own animated movie.
    • To be fair, while Foxy still has a presence, he is not an animatronic. Same thing with Bonnie, who, despite still having an attraction tied to him, is no longer an animatronic. Historically, the animatronics have hurt and killed people, but the posters, merchandise, and static decor have not, making them less of a liability to keep around. Plus, those characters appear to still be popular and profitable, so why wouldn't Fazbear Entertainment keep them around in some, safe form?
  • This is the ending where Freddy has escaped. If they have a rogue animatronic on the loose, and no idea what it will do, it is logical for them to no longer associate with it.
• If Springtrap/William Afton was still alive… Who are we playing as in Ultimate Custom Night?
  • Probably still William Afton. He just made good on his word that he "always comes back." However, it looks like Molten Freddy with his new A.I. seemed determined to get him to stop that, judging by him holding Springtrap at bay as the building burned.
  • Still William. Five Nights at Freddy's: Fazbear Frights confirms that UCN is William's nightmare rather than his afterlife.
    • Specifically one of his victims, the same one inhabiting the Blob, snagged him as he was dying, keeping him in a fittingly hellish limbo planning to get revenge for all the suffering done. But by keeping William from reaching the afterlife, he was still tied to the living world… ready to come back if someone managed to give him the right stimuli.
• Why does the official Fazmap handed out to guests include the very off-limits areas? It's not like they care about safe evacuation points.
  • More than likely it's the exact same map that's given to employees, and they simply don't care enough to give customers a map that doesn't include this information. Attempts at lawsuits for injury in these areas would just be met with resistance that they obviously weren't supposed to be there. Furthermore, robots are easy scapegoats so the wrong map can be blamed on a faulty AI. (Never mind the fact that this opens up criticism for staffing with robots; Fazbear Entertainment doesn't seem to think that far on anything.)
• Remnant was supposed to break down in intense heat, wasn't it? William shouldn't still be attached to Spring Bonnie anymore.
  • He’s survived multiple fires by this point. Looking at how the Blob appears to be every other Pizzeria Sim haunted animatronic fused together, it’s entirely possible that the scooper’s original blueprint was wrong about remnant.
  • That, or the temperature that breaks down remnant is a lot higher than a building fire can get, or the previous fire just missed some.
• How long has Bonnie been gone and replaced with Monty? Notes around the place reveal there's still quite a bit of Bonnie-related stuff around the PizzaPlex, but somehow there's also already an entire area themed around Monty? How?
  • Before he took over as the bassist, Monty always had the golf section. He was just previously limited to that section, similar to Music Man or the Daycare Attendant being limited to their one area.
• Gregory can stay inside of Freddy even in the Recharge Station, as we see after the Daycare. So why does he not just stay inside Freddy in a Recharge Station the whole night?
  • The game needs to have a plot, for one, and while Gregory may not be the kindest character, he has enough reason to want the animatronics to pay for what they're putting him through. The game also frames it as Freddy's role to ensure safety and survival, which Gregory seems a bit less concerned by, though Freddy also leans toward cooperating and assisting a child's wishes so he goes along with a more active plot.
    • So why doesn't Gregory just convince Freddy to let him stay inside his chassis? Gameplay-wise, nobody can detect him in there, not even Vanessa.
    • If Freddy runs out of battery while Gregory's inside him, Safe Mode is presumably deactivated, and Freddy will pull Gregory out and kill him, so staying inside there for an extended period of time would not be a great idea.
    • Gameplay-wise, 2 characters can figure out that Gregory is hiding inside of Freddy. Map Bot will yank Gregory out of Freddy to give him a map, and Moon will eventually check inside Freddy at the end of the hour if the player doesn't find a charging station in time.
    • But there's nothing stopping him from staying inside a recharge station the whole night story-wise.
    • Perhaps not, and they might have been able to have a time-lapse cutscene and alternate ending for such a path, but overall, the game only works if a more active story is offered to the player.
    • Perhaps there are concerns of overcharging and damaging the life of Freddys already limited battery?
• Is there any Watsonian explanation for how the Daycare Attendant can transform? As a machine, it really doesn't look built to shapeshift, especially given its different colors and fabrics as Sun and Moon. The game devs didn't seem to think so, since the transformation is never actually shown, but in-universe, what's actually happening? Realistically, there would probably have to be two separate animatronics with mutually exclusive activation protocols that happen to just look like one that transforms, possibly swapped out through ceiling cables if we're going with the puppet theming they seem to have.
  • Illusion Discs, boom, problem solved/head scratched.
  • The fabric looks the same, but the patterns and colors change. Some have proposed that the clothing and outer casing is made of some kind of extreme color-changing material triggered by light, electricity, or something else. The Sun's thin, triangular rays likely just extend from the head and retract back into the head when Moon is active. The real mystery is Moon's nightcap, which appears much thicker than the rays and doesn't seem like it could be stored in the head or really anywhere else due to the Daycare Attendant's thin frame and lack of visible storage areas. Where does it keep the nightcap when Sun is active? Does Moon pull it out of its loose-fitting pants (which don't appear to have any pockets)? Hammerspace? It's a mystery.
    • The rays extending from the head can be seen in-game, but the animation is hard to see, as it lasts for only a few frames, is at a distance, and the rays blend in with the background. When Sun first emerges from its room, the rays are absent, but they quickly extend outwards from the head.
    • Sun also temporarily pushes the rays back into its head when it puts its hands on top of its head when it freaks out about the lights being off. The rays immediately pop back into place when it takes its hands off its head.
• How exactly are the ruins of Freddy Fazbear's Pizza Place so far below the PizzaPlex? Unless it sunk into the earth or was forcibly buried after FFPS, it should still be on the surface, right?
  • Apparently the fire triggered a sinkhole. Somehow.
  • One of the lawsuits you can receive in Pizzeria Simulator mentions a kid falling into a sinkhole that suddenly formed underneath him, and the building in this lawsuit is noted to have unstable ground due to poor maintenance upkeep. It's possible that the fire Henry started aggravated the instability, and caused the building to fall beneath the earth.
  • Maybe a ghost did it. There seems to be enough of them in that location.
  • This Troper was always under the impression that it was always underground. Think about it: Henry wanted it all to end, so the last thing he'd want is to draw attention of the authorities by setting a building on fire. So he constructed the pizzeria underneath a decoy building (so the animatronics would assume it was a real establishment) and connected them with the elevator we see in Security Breach.
• If Fazbear Entertainment wanted to bury the past horrors as a joke story in Help Wanted, why include reminders of the horrors in the decor? Are they still holding onto that narrative as a necessity to address the dark side? Also, how do they know about entities like Shadow Bonnie?
• At this point, who even are Fazbear Entertainment? They collapsed after the first game's revived restaurant shuttered, but somehow re-formed after Fazbear's Fright until they rebuilt through the VR game and the launch of the Mega PizzaPlex. We don't know who's running it, but the company seems outright malicious by now, as they are no longer just incompetent and denialistic, but seem to have the whole picture and are burying the company's horrific past to relaunch and make more money, showing immense and active disrespect to the victims of the company and taking no responsibility for the failures of their fore(Faz)bears. It's a good commentary on corporate greed, so maybe we don't need to know who these people are. But by Security Breach, is Afton even the biggest problem we should be worrying about in this universe?
  • While, yes, they're corrupt, they're not the main source of conflict in the series, as William always seems to be the one pulling the strings in the events which result in people dying.
• How does the Blob have the pieces it has? It has the unscathed face pieces of Funtime Freddy and Circus Baby, and even parts of the classic animatronics. Are these the original animatronics' pieces — if so, why not have Molten Freddy and Scrap Baby parts, which would be what survived of those characters? Or are they pieces of alternate copies or reproductions of the animatronics that somehow ended up at the Pizza Place ruin?
  • Can probably be handwaved that Molten Freddy and Scrap Baby's designs were a creative choice by the Indie Developer (Nott Cawthon) who is said to have made the first 6 games in-universe. This is the only way to possibly explain the inconsistency in the designs in-universe. Same with Burntrap.
• Upon reaching an exit at 6 AM, Freddy will bring up Vanny, who he has never seen, and in many cases, neither Freddy nor Gregory should have any reason to know her name.
  • It's not explained how Gregory knows her name, but he can tell Freddy that he picked up on Vanny's name prior to 6 AM, and tell Freddy about a scary rabbit lady. Even though Freddy can't see her, he must believe Gregory enough to take Vanny seriously as a threat based on Gregory's testimony.
  • You can discover Vanny's hideout in Fazer Blast, which has her name written on the wall. Naturally, you can miss this if you do Monty Golf and Roxy's Raceway first, so it is very likely an oversight that Steel Wool made, and forgot to make dialogue and a check if the player had found the room prior.
• Sun says that we (referring to itself and Gregory) can drink Fizzy Faz as we stay up all night, but Sun doesn't have a moving jaw like the other animatronics and consequently lacks anything resembling a functional mouth. While it's possible that Sun would only pretend to drink the Fizzy Faz or would hide the can or bottle away when Gregory looks away for a moment, assuming that Sun would actually drink the Fizzy Faz with Gregory, how would Sun pull it off?
  • Sun might just be excluding itself from that suggestion for the above-mentioned obvious reasons.
  • The problem is that Sun said "we can ... drink Fizzy Faz until our heads ex-PLODE" and repeatedly refers to a group, which can only mean, in that context, Sun and Gregory. It's possible, however, that Sun is simply used to working with a group of toddlers and is misspeaking out of habit. If drinks were brought out for consumption, Sun would mysteriously disappear while the child(ren) enjoy them without Sun.
  • Alternatively, a thin gap exists between the sun and moon pieces that make up the Daycare Attendant's face (the ads for the candies make the detail that the moon is a separate piece attached to the sun clear). Sun might be able to drink Fizzy Faz through a straw between that gap.
  • Sun's just using the royal we. It's no different than if a parent says to their toddler "Let's go have a bath".
• How did William Afton transport his conscience from the in-universe video game and into a half-animatronic body that clearly has flesh growing through it? Vanessa, while possessed, probably helped, but how and why the torched Spring Bonnie suit? Why not something less damaged?
  • From the ending of Help Wanted: Vanessa, the player character from Help Wanted, tried to perform Tape Girl's "ritual" to contain Glitchtrap (Afton's mind copied as a digital entity inside the game) and failed, with the doorhole scene being Vanessa's mind locked behind as Glitchtrap took control over her body. After that controlled-Vanessa took on the identity of Vanny, and started working to rebuild Springtrap to resurrect Afton. As for why Afton chose the suit, there's not a whole lot of other vessels available. He can't permanently take Vanessa or Gregory as a host, and the animatronics are too sentient and have too much personality to be entirely wiped clean, so the old Springtrap body is the only body he can take.
  • Alternatively, Burntrap may just be a recreation of the old Springtrap. Keen-eyed players have noticed that he's built on a Glamrock endoskeleton, including the same style of claws we take from Monty. This would mean that Burntrap's animatronic parts are what's left after Glamrock Bonnie's decommissioning, while his human parts (which look much fresher than they did in prior games) came from a more recent cadaver. That begs the question of why the in-universe characters are recreating him, however.
• What sort of kid-themed pizza multiplex is open until midnight? There's a lot of cases when parents take their kids to places like Walmart, and they are screaming, having a tantrum, and just raising absolute hell because they just want to go to bed.
  • It might not literally be at nighttime. Tots are usually given nap times in daycare, so it might have something to do with that.
  • Sun, a part of the Superstar Daycare who would probably know all about the services it provides, asks Gregory if he's having a sleepover (which usually lasts all night) when Gregory arrives at the daycare at midnight. Apparently, at least parts of the PizzaPlex offer services that last throughout the night, such as sleepovers at the daycare.
    • My guess is Sun is just playing to a child, and not talking about a literal sleepover. It probably is just talking about naptime. Adults will do this too, where they play up a tiny event like it's this big thing to get a kid hyped for it.
  • Maybe they're also appealing to an older Periphery Demographic (maybe one that grew up with the original franchise) by also having business hours where they won't have to deal with kids.
    • Such an aged Periphery Demographic does appear to exist in-universe. One of the private birthday parties in the Superstar Daycare's greater area was for a 40-year-old. The whiteboard in the same area mentions it as well, but it's coded. note A picture of the whiteboard and what it means can be found here
      
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• Upon installing Roxy's eyes into Freddy, it is established that the eyes allow it user to see through walls. If that was the case, how did Roxy even have as hard of a time finding Gregory as Monty and Chica (aside from balanced gameplay of course)?
  • Maybe she can see through walls but not through everything? Or she can only see through one thing at a time?
  • Using the Exact Words said by Freddy when he gets Roxanne’s eyes, It seems like Roxanne can detect movement through walls specifically. If that’s the case, then as long as Gregory isn’t moving (which if he’s hiding inside Freddy or sneaking around the Pizzaplex, he won’t be) Roxanne would have to look for Gregory the same way the others do.
• Why is Monty, a gator, wearing gatorskin pants? And if they really are Bonnie's legs (considering the feet are purple), why was BONNIE wearing gatorskin pants?
  • The same reason Roxy and Chica are wearing Tiger and Leopard print. To fit in with the 80's glamrock theme.
• How does Gregory realize that the other animatronics are dangerous? Freddy agrees with his fears about being chased by Vanessa, but Gregory doesn't mention being threatened or attacked by any animatronic (in fact he ran directly up to an animatronic - Freddy - with no problems at all), nor does Freddy suggest they might be dangerous. Yet still, when Gregory first sees Chica, he assumes she'll be hostile and he needs to "distract her".
  • When Freddy is found by Vanessa while Gregory hides in the first aid station, Vanessa says she "already alerted the others", unintentionally tipping him off to the other animatronics trying to find him. This makes Gregory wary of Chica, Roxy, and Monty, especially since they are basically security as well.
• How come Fazbear Entertainment are advertising characters like Yenndo, an endoskeleton without its shell, in places for kids to see? Wouldn't it make sense not to include these nightmarish versions of their beloved characters?
  • We can assume the Indie Developer (Nott Cawthon) is the reason. For as far as kids are possibly aware. They are just characters in video games. Same for stuff like Plushtrap and Nightmare.
• Why does Freddy attack the player if he runs out of battery power? You could attribute it to his faulty in-universe programming, but that raises more questions. Wasn't he the only one who escaped Vanny's reprogramming of the animatronics? Shouldn't his programming be completely fine? Or are the Glamrock animatronics like the Funtime animatronics, in that they were secretly made to be killers all along? Also, why would his programming make the conclusion "if out of battery power, then attack thing in chest?"
  • We see at the beginning that he's currently in Safe Mode, which is probably the reason Vanny can't control him like the others. It could be that if an Animatronic gets too low on power, they return to a default state so they can focus on remedying that, but in this case that just makes Freddy vulnerable to being controlled by Vanny. Alternatively, resisting her reprogramming is a constant, active process that he can't keep up if he gets too low on power.
  • Another possibility: the animatronics are sentient enough that they have a full on fight-or-flight response to their own death. If Freddy believes he's going to die - and running out of power completely would be equivalent to that, for an animatronic - he's capable of attacking Gregory out of sheer panic. This also explains why he attacks if Gregory botches repairs on him, and why Monty may have attacked Bonnie in fear he would cause him to be decommissioned.
  • I always assumed that the jumpscare for running out of power was just used in a similar way to one of the uses for the Minireenas' jumpscare in Sister Location's fourth night, that is, Freddy didn't actually directly attack Gregory, but instead Gregory was, in his own words, "crushed and twisted into a meat pretzel."
• Who is the target audience of this game? Several people have noted that the game seems to censor any cases of extreme violence by using tropes such as Shadow Discretion Shot, Bloodless Carnage, and Never Say "Die". This is jarring because it's the first FNAF game to show real, fully modelled, uncostumed humans onscreen, so they could have made it Bloodier and Gorier. It's as if they were trying to make the game accessible to younger players... despite keeping the jumpscares, Burntrap's horribly visceral design, and other Nightmare Fuel.
• How does The Blob even work? Molten Freddy was already a case of Artistic License – Engineering, but they at least had a handful of visible endoskeleton parts that made it a little bit believable. The Blob seems to be nothing but a literal mountain of cables with some animatronic parts tossed onto the pile. I mean, how does it even have power? It's too big for a recharge station and seems to just slither around the ruins.
  • Maybe it's still haunted?
• Cassette Man deliberately designed the Pizzeria Simulator location to burn; it was supposed to burn thoroughly enough to permanently destroy the animatronics. How is there any fuel left to shoot fire at Afton, or enough combustible material left in the place to ignite another big fire like the True Ending shows?
• Where do the other Glamrocks come from in the True Ending? Going down the rickety elevator and breaking through those planks seems to be the only way in, and how would they have even known Freddy and Gregory are going there? If Afton summoned them to protect himself, why did he wait until they were broken? Speaking of which, how did they make their way down there, with Roxy being blind and Monty barely able to crawl?
  • Likely other hidden passageways, similar to how Freddy and Gregory escape in that ending. Burntrap likely hacked those three and he could control them beyond their disabilities.
  • Other hidden passageways? Granted, it isn't very clear, but it looked to me like they were just running back the way they came in. Freddy even mentions he had to "clear the path," which, to me, implies only one way in. I'll buy that Afton was able to control the Glamrocks to get them down there, but I feel like that raises more questions. Why do they attack one at a time? He seems to be able to control multiple animatronics at once, so why not just Zerg Rush Gregory and end it?
    • Bond Villain Stupidity? Maybe he thinks that trying to toy with Gregory and draw out his death will be more satisfying than just killing him?
• Assuming it is true that Monty wants to usurp Freddy, how did he add that scene of himself as the lead singer and Freddy in the trash to the Monty Golf arcade cabinet? As noted on the main page, it seems unlikely he'd have the time and ability to add it. Did he ask someone from management to add it? If so, why would they oblige? Did they not find that suspicious? Especially since it seems to contradict the Mellow Fellow personality that Monty is apparently supposed to have.
• Monty is considered the Token Evil Teammate for supposedly killing Bonnie. However, Roxanne says some very cruel things to Gregory - who is a child and possibly homeless - while chasing him, notably that nobody will miss him, to the point the Villains Wiki lists her under "Psychological Abusers" and "Sadists", though said wiki also treats her as no more at fault than Glamrock Chica (also listed as a sadist) due to being Brainwashed and Crazy, and also makes an argument she isn't evil because the Driver Bots she breaks aren't sapient, whereas Glamrock Bonnie was. And there's the apparent implication that she's really just projecting, and there's nothing to suggest she talks to children like this regularly. That, and without the leather pants treatment, she's considered a Jerkass Woobie, seemingly on par with characters like Helga. Would anybody argue otherwise, or can it safely be said that without being brainwashed, Roxanne is not evil, just a Jerkass?